Thursday, April 16, 2009

Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before.

Like Odartey Blankson, Dameon Mason, Karon Bradley, and Ryan Amoroso before him, Nick Williams has apparently decided he's had enough of Tom Crean's shit and is getting the rock out of Dodge.

I realize the circumstances of every transfer are different. Some guys -- Karon, Krunti Hester, Kevin Menard -- just weren't high major players, and were never going to become high major players. Some -- hello, Trevor Mbakwe -- are just headcases.

But then there are guys like Blankson, D-Mase and Nick Williams. Maybe they've got a bit of the headcase bug; I know we were quick to slap the "getting bad advice and listening to it" tag on ODB when he transferred to UNLV after a solid sophomore season. On the other hand, I don't think I've heard any of the three say anything positive about Crean ("he helped my career," "this is a decision for me, not a knock on Marquette," that kind of thing) after he left.

Maybe this is an Occam's Razor situation. For example: You know how there are people who claim to have the worst luck with friends? Where every "friend" this person has turns out to be (1) an asshole; (2) a liar; or (3) a budding felon? On closer inspection, it usually turns out that the problem is with the person, not with the supposed "friends." That's the simplest explanation, and, more times than not, it's the answer.

Perhaps the same is true of Crean. Maybe the issue isn't with the kids; maybe the issue is with him. When a kid like Nick Williams -- a kid who he recruited for two years at Marquette and who followed him like a sheep to Indiana -- decides to move on, it sure seems that way.

11 comments:

Master Reid said...

You gotta admit, this one is a bit curious. Though maybe he just sees the writing on the wall, knows that there are more talented players are coming in as freshmen and his role will be diminished even further. This plays into D3's theory that Crean was way overrated as a recruiter. Maybe, for all the hype, Nick Williams just isn't quite good enough.

Rubie Q said...

I don't think there can be much debate about Crean being overrated as a recruiter. Crean sells himself as a great recruiter, and because he's such a snake oil salesman, people buy into it -- for a while.

Do you still miss him, Reid?

Master Reid said...

Nah, I'm over it.

Devil's Threesome said...

Another overhyped recruit - who woulda thunk it??

You know when I became "unsold" on Nick Williams? Not that I was ever "sold" btw. It's when I saw him, or rather, didn't see him. I was on the same flight as his LeFlore HS team when they came up to MKE in 2007. I couldn't pick him out of the group. DeMarcus Cousins - that was a dude that stuck out. He's huge, yes, but he carried himself in a different way, had a swagger. Nick Williams looked kind of doughy and was shuffling around. "So that's the guy we are all excited about? Ok, don't judge a book by it's cover, yada, yada yada."

Before I get railed on about this, let me explain. How is my highly unscientific, BS judgement any better/worse than someone seeing youtube clips of a dude dunking in HS or at some podunk JUCO, creaming his jeans and declaring the "hotshot" recruit as the "next Shawn Marion?"

Rubie Q said...

I don't think your point is invalid at all. And I understand why you don't get all giddy about recruits, but let me say this: If we're going to agree that there's nothing worthwhile that can be said about an incoming freshman until he plays his first game, it's going to be awfully quiet around here from April to November.

Devil's Threesome said...

Well, you have a point there, but let's make it from April to October since we get our first look at the fresh fish before Halloween.

Rubie Q said...

Touche.

For the record: I agree that the whole "Joe Fulce is the second coming of Shawn Marion" shit was ri-goddamn-diculous. No one can predict with any certainty how well a 19-year-old is going to make the leap to high major college basketball.

But let me say this: I watched both of Maymon's State tourney games this year. For a 6'7" dude, he had really good passing skills and great stroke, especially from the line. Will that translate to the next level? Fuck if I know, but I'm excited as hell to see if it does.

Devil's Threesome said...

I'm most excited about Maymon as well. I want him to dominate to shut up all those Badger fans who have been dragging his name through the mud from the moment he committed to MU.

Rubie Q said...

Well, they said the same kinds of things about Wesley, and even worse things about Wesley's mom, and they were absolutely right about that. Wesley killed our program with four years of being a good-to-great player and a tremendous ambassador for the school, and his mother was an absolute embarrassment, cheering on her kid and also being a great representative for MU. So I believe anything and everything the Badger fans have to say about Maymon.

EMoney said...

Maymon is a headcase! He and his dad both begged Bo Ryan for a scholarship, but Madison didn't want anything to do with him. His grades just won't cut it at Madison and he is WAY too selfish to play for the Badgers. The only reason he went to Marquette is because Buzz guaranteed Jeronne a starting spot. Also, they basically just hand out diplomas at MU.....I mean 100% graduation rate, what a joke.

EMoney said...

Oh yeah, this was about Nick Williams. One word.....overrated. That's one thing I don't like about these recruiting rankings. Some kid hits puberty sooner than the others in his district. He can play pretty well, but is physically more imposing than the others and naturally dominates at the high school level. Once he gets to D1 basketball, everyone is as big and athletic so suddenly he isn't as good. Watched a number of Indiana games this year. Nick just did not look good out there. And you're right on D3.....he did not seem to have that swagger when he was out on the court. His high ranking early in high school just got carried with him until he graduated. IMO, the same scenario with Jamil Wilson. Did anyone see that espn moved him up from 56ish ranked to 30....and they moved Maymon from 51 to 55? How can Maymon who won Mr. Basketball in consecutive years over Wilson be ranked lower Jamil? I'm not saying that Maymon should have moved up that high, but what did Wilson do to deserve it. As we are all stating, in the end hype means nothing coming in.

And I'll also agree that Crean was highly overrated as a recruiter.