Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Everybody's Buying??? Then Sell, Sell, Sell!!!

As I sat mortified watching the Chuck New Town experiment come to a disastrous end that surprised absolutely no one, I began searching frantically for my white flag. It's been obvious for a while now that this team just doesn't have the horses to make a legitimate run at the postseason this year. However, the division has been bad enough to keep the delusion alive this late into the year. The fact that the Brewers have so many games remaining against the dregs of the National League has also been pointed to as a ray of hope. Damn all of that. The past two performances by (the now mysteriously injured) Jeff Suppan and Johnny Wholestaff, and the subsequent thrashing by the 37-60 (37 and fucking 60!) Nationals have proved that the dream is now over and it's time to face reality.

So, now what? Obviously making some kind of blockbuster trade is not going to happen, or at least it shouldn't. Even if we do land some pitcher, I don't think it would even be enough to make a difference. So, I started taking inventory of what the Brewers could sell at the deadline. Surely, we must have some disposable parts that some alleged contender might want. What about Braden Looper? He's got 9 wins, he's only signed through this year for a pretty reasonable price. He's good enough to help bolster someone's rotation if they're looking to merely add depth. Also, he's been a late inning reliever, so he has the versatility to add bullpen depth as well. He's not a guy that's going to make or break a team's stretch run, but he could be a nice bargain for someone at the deadline. This would obviously create a hole in the rotation, but I wouldn't object to giving Dillard a shot to see what he could do. He pitched pretty well out of the pen for a while last year, he pitched well as a starter at Triple A this year, he's still young enough (just turned 26) to be considered a prospect, why not give him a shot at it. It's not like we have an overload of competent starting pitchers.

What about Trevor Hoffman? He might not be happy about it, but I think he might be the most tradeable commodity. Any team looking for bullpen help would have to consider the all-time saves leader if the price was right. He's not the Hoffman of old but he's shown himself to still be a reliable closer, and could look good for a lot of teams trying to figure out how to bridge the gap between the starters and their closer.

I'd love to think that some team may be interested in Jeff Suppan for his "veteran presence", "pitching savvy" and/or "playoff experience". Or maybe they'd like to acquire Bill Hall for his "defensive versatility". But sadly, like the Brewers in the playoffs, I don't think those dreams are coming true this year either.

Some other random thoughts from last night:

-To the fan in the row in front of me who insisted on bashing Fielder and calling him a "fat ass" over and over: Shut the fuck up!! If you feel like ragging on someone, the guy that's 2nd in the NL in damn near every offensive category and would be the leading NL MVP candidate if not for the beast called Pujols, is probably not the best place to start.... Hefty though he may be.

-If the Jim Rome Show has taught us anything, it's that "You suck" is not a take. Shouting at players that they "suck" just makes you sound like an ass. You know what, Carlos Villanueva did suck last night, and has sucked for quite sometime. That isn't news. If you want to berate players, at least try to do it in a manner that is creative and witty enough to make those around you do more than just look at you and roll their eyes.

15 comments:

EMoney said...

Watching this season sink in titanic fashion, I can't help but wonder what is going to happen over the next couple of seasons. As we all know, pitching is of the utmost importance. Aside from Gallardo we are extremely thin and don't really have any great prospects in the waiting. That being said, what in the hell kind of approach does management take to rectify the situation? Prince's time in Milwaukee is dwindling, and aside from Braun our young players haven't really panned out. So what do we do? Do we bet the farm on our last year with Prince? Or do we "rebuild" around Braun/Gallardo and deal Prince/Hart/Hardy/or Weeks for more prospects and hope it all comes together when Gamel and Escobar are producing at the major league level?

Rubie Q said...

As I've been saying for about six months now: we can't trade Prince. He's the only consistent threat in the line-up. Without him, we'd be the Giants, 'cept without decent pitching.

I say: see if you can get anything for Hardy and Hart, bring Gamel and Escobar back up, and get them as many reps as possible before the end of the year. I don't know if we're going to be able to make any noise next year, but I'd feel a lot better if Gamel and Escobar have a little seasoning before the 2010 season starts.

EMoney said...

I have another question.....over the past 10-15 years, are Ben Sheets and Gallardo(to this point) the only good pitchers that our farm system has produced? Does anyone else find something wrong with this picture considering the "experts" always seem to rank the Brewers farm system at or near the top in all of baseball?

EMoney said...

Rubie - I see your point about Prince, but to clarify, does this mean that you want to ride him out to free agency and then let him sign for big bucks elsewhere and get nothing in return for his departure? Do we have him for 1 or 2 more years after '09? If it's through '011, then I agree with your thought of holding onto him yet. But if it's only 1 more year I say SELL HIGH!!!!

Sheets' Va Jay Jay said...

He signed a 2-year deal but we control his rights through '11.

Rubie Q said...

And, at the rate he's going this year, the $11 million he's making next season is a fucking steal for the Brewers.

Devil's Threesome said...

Rubes - don't forget about Kyle Peterson & Paul Rigdon. That's some high quality shit.

Rubie Q said...

Huh? I was talkin' 'bout Prince.

Master Reid said...

I'm of the belief that unless someone bowls you over with an offer for Hart/Hardy/Weeks at the deadline, don't bother moving them now. I would definitely shop Hardy this offseason. Trading him in the offseason opens up so many more possibilities because everyone is looking to add pieces, rather than just the contenders. If you were to move Weeks, you would have to consider keeping Lopez, which I wouldn't necessarily object to. He'd be a nice bridge to Lawrie (provided Lawrie can make the bigs as a 2B).

As for the pitching, your guess is as good as mine. Though player/personnel type will tell you that developing pitching is perhaps the most difficult thing to do in an organization. So the fact that the Brewers haven't had a pipeline of young pitchers coming up doesn't mean they have a weak system.

Master Reid said...

Oh, and Prince goes nowhere. I'm content to keep him until he's a free agent and let him walk if we can keep enough around him to be contenders for the duration of his time here in Milwaukee.

Devil's Threesome said...

Ah, my Rigdon comment was directed at E$.

Master Reid said...

To be fair, I don't believe Rigdon was a product of the Brewer organization. I think he came over in a trade; perhaps the Wickman deal with Richie Sexson?

FPMKE said...

Sorry I've been so quiet. I realized this morning I had ignored the other blog for about a week.

Anyway, I agree that there is no need to "sell" right now unless we get something ridiculous in return (which we won't). I'm all for moving Hardy and Hart in the offseason to better the team. If this slide continues (and I have to believe that it will), we need to get Salome up to get some work in the majors.

Rubie Q said...

Right you are, Reid. Rigdon came over in the Sexson deal.

I think D'Amico came up in our farm system. Maybe he's a better example.

EMoney said...

I realize that pitching prospects are much more difficult to produce, but ONLY 2! Milwaukee has been bad for nearly 3 decades meaning we've had higher draft picks this whole time, so you would think that more than 2 would come along.....especially considering we draft, what, 30 guys each year. I know nobody has the answer to this, but for all the cred that Jack Zdurencik (that spelling probably is way off) gets for these great farm systems that he has put together over the year, we have produced only 2 good pitchers and 1 playoff appearance.

I guess the reason I'm bringing this up is because of the whole trade discussions, ie Prince. I think that because there are very few elite pitching prospects out there, it takes already all-star caliber mlb players to make acquiring such a prospect possible. Prince is the best player that we've had since, I don't know, Yount/Molitor. With that said, Prince might be a piece that can be moved for a highly regarded pitching prospect(s). The usual suspects of contenders, ie. Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers, ie. large markets with tons of cash, are more often than not upgrading in the off-seasons by trading their prospects for already proven ball players. A player such as Prince, who would ideally be a DH in the American League, could gain a ton of interest from the likes of New York and Boston in the near future. And if they were to include some of their pitching talent, I would definitely listen. This year, and I suppose even last year, really emphasizes how crucial the starting staff is. We could have one of the best hitting lineups in the bigs, but if you don't have a staff to support it, its not nearly as dangerous.